Today we’d like to introduce you to Debbie Brenner.
Debbie, let’s start with your story. We’d love to hear how you got started and how the journey has been so far.
My husband and I were married in 1985 in Towanda Kansas. We moved immediately afterward to Ridgecrest California where we both worked for the United States Navy, China Lake California. We waited to have a child on purpose, as we wanted to prepare our lives as much as possible with security in our jobs and housing, and to have some time together. In 1996 my son was born in Lancaster California. I noticed immediately upon bringing him home that something was wrong, as he cried with colic and was severely fussy every minute of the day and night, screaming until he exhausted himself, and fell asleep. Now I understand that to be damage to the central nervous system because of toxicity, but then all I could do was make it day to day trying to soothe him. At five months he started to pop his baby teeth and I quickly noticed he had no enamel on the front teeth as they peeked through the gums. At his nine month well checkup, his then pediatrician Dr. Robert Schumacher, MD diagnosed him with dental fluorosis and asked how much water I had drunk when I was pregnant with my son. I lived in the Mojave Desert, so obviously my answer was “a lot… Why?” He preceded to tell me how he had been trying to get the Ridgecrest water district to report the fluoride content in the city water accurately but was having little success.
I took my pediatrician diagnosis and sought to have it verified by seeking a council from two dentists, one being a pediatric specialist in Bakersfield California. I was told fluoride is a wonderful thing and my son most definitely was not poisoned by fluoride. I was not convinced. As I dove into the research available from the budding internet search engines of 1997, I found quite the opposite. Yet things were not clicking into place as to why the dentists would deny what my pediatrician was saying literally without even looking at the evidence. Little did I realize how entangled the money trail behind the recommendations of the American Dental Association (ADA) was with its connections to Big Pharma and the sick care system called Rockefeller Medicine and the American Medical Association (AMA). At the time, the information was limited on the internet without going to a research institution’s medical library. Yet I still found many pictures of exactly what my son’s teeth looked like and the pictures matched Dr. Schumacher’s diagnosis.
I also found Dr. Hardy Limbeck from Canada, a dentist and college professor teaching dental medicine at a Canadian University, who had been researching dental fluorosis for years. At this time, in 1997, Dr. Limbeck has not convinced fluoride was the evil my heart was telling me it was… But fast forward to my family’s move to Phoenix Arizona in 1998. I was searching for a new path in life and my heartstrings were telling me I needed to get back in school and study cellular biology, physiology and toxicology. So, in 2000 I registered for my first classes at Arizona State University. I wrote many papers in college on fluoride and the toxicity it brings to humanity, but my first research paper was I think my best. We were now entering the new millennia (2000) and I was deep into the fluoride research once again.
Education is the key to enlightenment and knowledge is power. The biggest question of the day should be why, if the toxicology information is readily available to the average layperson, should doctors and dentists not make an effort to become informed? Dr. Hardy Limback, B.Sc., Ph.D. in Biochemistry, D.D.S., head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry of Toronto, and president of the Canadian Association for Dental Research, had an explanation as to why he supported the fluoride movement for so long. In his apology statement delivered to his faculty and students at the University of Toronto, Department of Dentistry, in April 1999, he declared, “Speaking as the head of preventive dentistry, I told them that I had unintentionally misled my colleagues and my students. For the past 15 years, I had refused to study the toxicology information that is readily available to anyone. Poisoning our children was the furthest thing from my mind. Your well-intentioned dentist is simply following 50 years of misinformation from public health and the dental association”.
Most people have no idea what dental fluorosis is, including many dentists, medical doctors, and medical professionals. Dental fluorosis is the first sign that children have ingested more fluoride than what the American Dental Association (ADA) recommends is an optimum amount. The public acquires almost all knowledge pertaining to the health of teeth from dentists and the ADA. Sadly, the ADA takes great care to conceal the truth about fluoride, which causes this preventable, permanent, and systemic condition. “Fluorosis effects from up to 22-84% percent of children in the United States,” but is rarely if ever, advertised or discussed in the ADA’s published literature. The public has been brainwashed for fifty years to believe a lie. The dental establishment, as well as manufacturers, and promoters of fluoride-laced dental products are continuing to knowingly poison the public for profit. In time, changes will come; look at what happened to big tobacco. It took 50 years for warnings about cigarette smoking to get out of the medical journals and into the public domain and it took some 75 years before it was accepted that hand-washing was imperative before surgery. This was the thesis of one of the best research papers of my college career.
My son is now 23 years old, born in February 1996…the year GMO’s were introduced into our food supply. These pesticides destroy our gut microbiome and allow these harmful chemicals and pathogens to get into our blood supply and into our brain and central nervous system. My son was born with fluoride poisoning, from me unknowingly drinking toxic water while pregnant with him, which caused the enamel not to form on his baby teeth which were evident when they erupted from the gum line at five months of age. I could not get any dentist to admit this was his problem…even though I had an incredibly smart pediatrician from Johns Hopkins University who diagnosed him properly. After my research in college, I realized the reason for this was money and greed and fear of losing their licenses.
Fluoride, the “Golden Child” of dental professionals around the world, seems to have a “dark side” that few outside a very specialized field of the scientific community are aware of. As disturbing as it may be, fluoride can cause DNA damage and even apoptosis, “programmed cell death”, in human cells. The American Medical Association even stated in 1943, “Fluorides are general protoplasmic poisons, probably because of their capacity to modify the metabolism of cells by changing the permeability of the cell membrane and by inhibiting certain enzyme systems. The exact mechanism of such actions is obscure. The sources of fluorine intoxication are drinking water containing 1 part per million or more of fluorine, fluoride compounds used as insecticidal sprays for fruits and vegetables (cryolite and barium fluosilicate), and the mining and conversion of phosphate rock to superphosphate, which is used as fertilizer.”
After I graduated from ASU with my degree in cellular biology and physiology (2005) I worked for my alternative chiropractor and taught a home school biology class through a local homeschool co-op. While working with my chiropractor, I learned about a world I had never dreamed existed…Quantum Physics and Bio-Energetic Medicine. I was introduced to this European Technology called Electro Acupuncture According to Voll (EAV) and Dr. Reinhardt Voll of Germany. Another name for this technology is Electro Dermal Screening (EDS). It was here where they say “success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity”. I found my calling and my passion; detoxing people and animals at the cellular level from environmental toxins; petrochemicals and heavy metals and pathogens. I hooked up with Dr. Shayne Morris of Systemic Formulas, Ogden Utah and Dr. Daniel Pompa of Health Centers of The Future and True Cellular Detox, Park City Utah and I’ve been working in the world of True Cellular Detox since 2006. My specialty is heavy metals, cellular parasites and Lyme with complications of methylation mutations MTHFR.
We’re always bombarded by how great it is to pursue your passion, etc – but we’ve spoken with enough people to know that it’s not always easy. Overall, would you say things have been easy for you?
Honestly, what they say is true. You have many failures before you have success. The thing is just never to give up… Persist in prayer and take each little success as a sign you are on the right path. So many things could have stopped me and my dearest friends have told me a lesser woman would have thrown in the towel. I knew God had a plan for me and it was to help people and animals. The hardest thing for me was getting this going without any operating capital. Staying positive is the game changer, even in adversity. This does go against my core nature so I know God is saying I have to work even harder at being “the glass is half full” I’m getting better all the time. I look at the lives I’ve been privileged to be a part of and fall on my knees because I’m so thankful. I just want to pass along all that I know so others can touch the lives in their circle of influence.
We’d love to hear more about your business.
“Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want, and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way” – Albert Einstein
“ If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration” – Nikola Tesla
I graduated from Arizona State University with a degree in cellular biology/physiology (2005) at age 40. I went back to school to study the cell because I wanted to understand how my baby was poisoned in utero by fluoride. I studied hard getting top honors (3.76 GPA) in pre-med and chemistry. After graduation, I worked for an alternative chiropractor and this is where I learned about bio-energetic medicine and quantum physics as it is used to find the causes that are missed in allopathic medicine today. My path was set when I learned about Electro Acupuncture According to Voll (EAV). Another name for this German Technology is (EDS) or Electro Dermal Screening. It uses electrical frequencies to find imbalances in the body as well as pathogens and environmental disturbances such as petrochemicals and heavy metals. I have found things such as Lyme Bacteria and had genetic testing done to prove it was there… The same with cellular parasites. I’ve had this happen so many times that I do not question my machine. I am always amazed at what it can find.
EAV/EDS is one of the most thorough, powerful and promising modern, holistic methodologies. The specific model I have is called Interactive Query System (IQS)
Electroacupuncture according to Voll or EAV, is a unique form of acupuncture without needles. Instead, it uses electromagnetic waves to measure energy levels at acupuncture points along the meridian lines of the body. The Interactive Query System is just one of many different types of EAV machines that measure energy.
All matter is energy generated from the transfer of electrons within electron shells and the body requires a constant supply of energy to remain comparatively stable that is, in balance or good health. This is the understanding of modern physics. Energy can be temperature, pressure, force, etc, and it can be measured by various means. One form of energy, however, allows the measurement of the most subtle changes that are almost imperceptible. This energy is electromagnetic. Today, we are standing on the threshold of another important advance in medicine, made possible by a chance discovery of a German Scientist, Dr. Reinhold Voll.
Dr. Voll began his research in 1953 with two assumptions:
1. That each organ of the body produces or consumes energy
2. That health depends on an energy balance which can be influenced through the respective acupuncture points.
If these assumptions are true, he reasoned, it should be possible to measure this energy and restore the body’s energy balance with the aid of modern technology. Together with an electronics engineer, Dr. Voll developed an apparatus to measure the slightest energetic reactions and the momentary electrical potential of an organ at the acupuncture points.
By measuring this electric potential, we can detect illness in its very early stages, well before it can be detected by conventional medical tests. Another test can be run by using a Contrast Phase Microscope to detect issues in blood. Allopathic medical doctors send blood work to labs all the time and usually unless specifically requested by the doctor… The lab will run the blood work using a regular light microscope. Thus potentially missing critical anomalies.
Every illness needs time to develop. The body can cope with many stresses and adverse influences before cells or cell compounds are damaged. When this happens, we may feel a slight uneasiness or discomfort and we may not pay much attention to it. Only when a large number of cells are destroyed do we feel sick, with symptoms such as fever, aches, nausea, etc. Electro acupuncture measures subtle changes in the sub-atomic particles of atoms…
These early electrical changes are very subtle. That’s why Dr. Voll had to develop a machine that was very sensitive and very precise. The machine measures electrical changes so precisely that it can detect, for instance, small changes in the electric potential of the stomach after a particular food is ingested. This is long before the patient himself is aware of any changes happening in the body, and long before most of the clinical data can be obtained through the usual medical test.
Electro acupuncture can come up with the results much earlier. The conventional medical investigation, such as x-rays, ultrasound, MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) and the many other types of scans available today, all look at structures in the body. Doctors look for swelling, hardening, tumors and other abnormalities. Yet these are primarily structural changes. The energetic properties of a tissue or organ are not considered to be important.
Most practitioners of alternative medicine consider energy to be of primary importance. The understanding of energy medicine is that before we develop serious diseases, the first thing that goes wrong in the body is an electrical change. Only when this electrical change continues for a considerable period of time does a structural change in the organ appear. Only then can such changes to be detected by x-rays, MRI and other scans.
But it may be too late. If abnormalities and diseases can be detected at the stage of energy changes, diagnosis can be made much earlier. And the diseases are more easily reversible than when a lump has already appeared. Most allopathic doctors are not familiar with the philosophy of energy medicine. So they consider this view to be nonsense Electro Acupuncture is like tuning a car…
One way to understand the difference between energetic and structural changes is to consider the performance of a car. If the engine is not properly tuned, the car will not run smoothly, especially under difficult conditions. But if we’re to check the structure of the engine, you won’t find anything wrong not even if you have the best auto mechanic working with the most advanced testing equipment.
Over time, wear and tear will set in and eventually, structural problems will appear.This happens all the time with the human body. Initially, we detect very fine disturbances in the function of an organ. The liver, stomach, intestines or other organs may not function smoothly 100 % of the time. Or, we may occasionally experience slight aches and pain.
But a supposedly “thorough” medical check-up reveals nothing is wrong. So we ignore the signs. Slowly, the condition worsens until we “suddenly” discover that we have cancer! No. Cancer and other serious diseases do not happen suddenly. They develop over a long time. And all the while, the body sends signals to tell us that something is wrong. The trouble is, we either don’t know how to read these signals, or we ignore them. EAV is just one of many ways to read the early warning sign of disease. And to restore the energy balance before it is too late. Everything is energy… Einstein knew this. We are energy. You and I and everyone else – and everything else – are masses of energy.
Einstein’s famous equation, E=mc2, although perhaps a bit profound for us to fully grasp, simply states that all matter is energy. Understanding energy at the sub-atomic level… It is not difficult to appreciate this fact. At one level, we know that we are flesh and blood, skin and bones, hair and nails, etc. But what are these made of? Atoms and molecules. What are atoms and molecules made of? Pre-atomic particles like protons, neutrons and electrons. And what are these pre-atomic particles made of? Modern science has discovered that they are not solid particles, but merely vibrations or waves of energy. They are energy. ..
What were you like growing up?
I grew up in the South; Mountain Home Arkansas to be exact. I was not aware of how lucky I was growing up on Lake Norfork and getting to swim almost every day in the summer. I was a bookworm, so logically the library was one of my favorite places to hang out. This was way before the world wide web with everything at our fingertips. There is something I still love about the smell and peacefulness of a library. I’m a research junkie; if I could get paid to research that would be the job for me. And I am a huge animal person and anyone who knows me is never surprised what might be hanging out in my house. I have a barnyard living in my HOA home… But we won’t tell anyone I have chickens…we can just keep that part quiet! All my animals now are rescues but back in the day, we imported two German Shepherds from Germany (Sarah and Rommel). Now I have three dogs, four cats, one red eared slider turtle and one sulcata tortoise named Sherman. I also have a horse named Guinness who is famous in her own right… She was in the movie “Tombstone” … One of the bad guys rode her in the movie. Part of what I do is detox with animals and I have had some amazing cases where I’ve saved them when modern medicine had no answers…always learning from each one.
Pricing:
- $350 Initial IQS Scan Includes Report and Consulation w/Recommendations
Contact Info:
- Address: 9566 W. Ross Ave.
Peoria, AZ 85382 - Website: www.quantumhealthconsulting.com
- Phone: 623-670-2050
- Email: debbie@quantumhealthconsulting.com

Image Credit:
Lavender Field Picture First One…is Debbie Brenner and Susan Hunter (Debbie is on the right) Husband and Wife Formal Pic is Randy and Debbie Brenner…The animals are all Debbie’s rescues
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